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  Some questions about Dirac spinor transformation law

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I have perhaps meaningless question about Dirac spinors, but I'm at a loss.

The transformation laws for for left-handed and right-handed 2-spinors are ψaψa=Nbaψb=(e12ωμνσμν)baψb,ψb=ψa(N1)ba,

ψ˙aψ˙a=(N)˙b˙aψ˙b=(e12ωμν˜σμν)˙b˙aψ˙b,ψ˙b=ψ˙a(N1)˙b˙a,
where (σμν)ba=14(σμ˜σνσν˜σμ),(˜σμν)˙b˙a=14(˜σμσν˜σνσμ),
(σμ)b˙b=(ˆE,σi),(˜σν)˙aa=ε˙a˙bεbaσ˙bb=(ˆE,σi).
Why do we always take the Dirac spinor as Ψ=(φaκ˙b),
not as Ψ=(φaκ˙b)?
According to (1),(2) first one transforms as δΨ=12ωμν(σμν00˜σμν)Ψ,
while the second one - as δΨ=12ωμν(σμν00˜σμν)Ψ,
so it is more natural than first, because the first one has both covariant and contravariant components, while the second has only covariant (contravariant components).

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-04-01 16:08 (UCT), posted by SE-user Andrew McAddams
asked Mar 8, 2014 in Theoretical Physics by Andrew McAddams (340 points) [ no revision ]
Are the indices a b correct in 1 and 2 ?

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-04-01 16:08 (UCT), posted by SE-user Love Learning
@LoveLearning : did you ask about the horisontal position of the indices? If yes, I think so.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-04-01 16:08 (UCT), posted by SE-user Andrew McAddams
Maybe I'm too tired but you use b as a summation and as an index etc.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-04-01 16:08 (UCT), posted by SE-user Love Learning
@LoveLearning : yes, thank you. I fixed it.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-04-01 16:08 (UCT), posted by SE-user Andrew McAddams

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I think it is convention to write the conjugate Weyl fermion in, (ϕαˉκ˙β)

(it is common to put a bar over the conjugate representation), with a raised index in order to comply with the ˙α˙α contraction of spinor indicies. Recall that we write, ϕχϕαχα,ψˉχϕ˙αˉχ˙α
Thus having the particular index structure for the Dirac spinor gives, ˉΨγμΨ=(κβˉϕ˙α)(0(σμ)β˙β(ˉσμ)˙αα0)(ϕαˉκ˙β)=κσμˉκ+ˉϕˉσμϕ
where all the dotted indices contract with an "upwards staircase", ˙α˙α, and undotted with a "downwards staircase", αα.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-04-01 16:08 (UCT), posted by SE-user JeffDror
answered Mar 9, 2014 by JeffDror (650 points) [ no revision ]
Thank you! Your answer satisfied me fully.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-04-01 16:08 (UCT), posted by SE-user Andrew McAddams
@AndrewMcAddams: No problem, sorry I didn't get a chance to read your previous concern.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-04-01 16:08 (UCT), posted by SE-user JeffDror
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I suspect the origin of this might have to do with the bi-spinor notation. Given a four-vector bμ, one defines the corresponding bi-spinor, b/α˙β=bμ(σμ)α˙β. In this convention, bi-spinors have both lower indices (or upper indices if one uses (ˉσμ)β˙α). Once such a choice is made, the index structure of 4×4 gamma matrices is fixed leading to what seems a strange choice for the index structure for a Dirac spinor. In order to avoid such details, I usually use a single meta index A=(α,˙α) (capital letters) to denote the combination leaving the finer detail only when I need to work explicitly with gamma matrices. I recommend appendix A of the article by M. Sohnius titled "Introducing Supersymmetry" (Physics Reports 128 (1985) 39-204).

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-04-01 16:08 (UCT), posted by SE-user suresh
answered Mar 8, 2014 by suresh (1,545 points) [ no revision ]
bμσμa˙b refers to the (12,12) representation, have diffenent transformation law and another equation comparing to bispinor rep. Maybe it is impossible to move from the direct sum of (12,0)+(0,12) rep to the 4-vector one (however, it would be possible if rep is (1,0) or (0,1)). Can you comment it?

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-04-01 16:08 (UCT), posted by SE-user Andrew McAddams

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