Quantcast
  • Register
PhysicsOverflow is a next-generation academic platform for physicists and astronomers, including a community peer review system and a postgraduate-level discussion forum analogous to MathOverflow.

Welcome to PhysicsOverflow! PhysicsOverflow is an open platform for community peer review and graduate-level Physics discussion.

Please help promote PhysicsOverflow ads elsewhere if you like it.

News

PO is now at the Physics Department of Bielefeld University!

New printer friendly PO pages!

Migration to Bielefeld University was successful!

Please vote for this year's PhysicsOverflow ads!

Please do help out in categorising submissions. Submit a paper to PhysicsOverflow!

... see more

Tools for paper authors

Submit paper
Claim Paper Authorship

Tools for SE users

Search User
Reclaim SE Account
Request Account Merger
Nativise imported posts
Claim post (deleted users)
Import SE post

Users whose questions have been imported from Physics Stack Exchange, Theoretical Physics Stack Exchange, or any other Stack Exchange site are kindly requested to reclaim their account and not to register as a new user.

Public \(\beta\) tools

Report a bug with a feature
Request a new functionality
404 page design
Send feedback

Attributions

(propose a free ad)

Site Statistics

205 submissions , 163 unreviewed
5,082 questions , 2,232 unanswered
5,353 answers , 22,789 comments
1,470 users with positive rep
820 active unimported users
More ...

  Does the Lindblad equation satisfy a fluctuation dissipation relation?

+ 4 like - 0 dislike
1358 views

The fluctuation dissipation relation is usually stated in terms of an identity that relates the retarded, advanced and either the Keldysh or time-ordered correlators. This is easily enforced in Keldysh theory.

Considering a quantum system interacting with a bath in the Keldysh formalism, integrating out the bath, and taking the saddle points of the system action, we obtain dynamical equations that describe the evolution of an open system and automatically satisfy the fluctuation dissipation relation (see eg the first few chapters of Kamenev 2011, or his notes https://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0412296)

This dynamical equation will generally not be the same as the dynamics obtained from the Lindblad equation.

  • Is there a good understanding of why this is? Presumably there are approximations in one approach that the other manages to avoid? Are the different regimes of applicability well understood?

  • Does the Lindblad equation also satisfy a fluctuation dissipation relation? (though I am not entirely sure the correct way to defined one in this context)

I can give more details if this question is unclear, but I have erred on the side of generality.


This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2016-11-22 17:26 (UTC), posted by SE-user ComptonScattering

asked Nov 17, 2016 in Theoretical Physics by ComptonScattering (30 points) [ revision history ]
edited Nov 22, 2016 by Dilaton

1 Answer

+ 3 like - 0 dislike

Does the Lindblad equation also satisfy a fluctuation dissipation relation? 

Sometimes, sort of, depending on what you mean by it. See

J.T. Stockburger and T. Motz,
Thermodynamic deficiencies of some simple Lindblad operators,
Fortschritte der Physik (2016).
https://arxiv.org/abs/1508.02723

R. Chetrite and K. Mallick,
Quantum fluctuation relations for the Lindblad master equation,
J. Stat. Physics 148 (2012), 480-501.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10955-012-0557-z/fulltext.html

The preprint was called:
Fluctuation relations for quantum Markovian dynamical system (2010).
https://arxiv.org/abs/1002.0950

answered Nov 22, 2016 by Arnold Neumaier (15,787 points) [ no revision ]

Your answer

Please use answers only to (at least partly) answer questions. To comment, discuss, or ask for clarification, leave a comment instead.
To mask links under text, please type your text, highlight it, and click the "link" button. You can then enter your link URL.
Please consult the FAQ for as to how to format your post.
This is the answer box; if you want to write a comment instead, please use the 'add comment' button.
Live preview (may slow down editor)   Preview
Your name to display (optional):
Privacy: Your email address will only be used for sending these notifications.
Anti-spam verification:
If you are a human please identify the position of the character covered by the symbol $\varnothing$ in the following word:
p$\hbar$ysicsOver$\varnothing$low
Then drag the red bullet below over the corresponding character of our banner. When you drop it there, the bullet changes to green (on slow internet connections after a few seconds).
Please complete the anti-spam verification




user contributions licensed under cc by-sa 3.0 with attribution required

Your rights
...