Quantcast
  • Register
PhysicsOverflow is a next-generation academic platform for physicists and astronomers, including a community peer review system and a postgraduate-level discussion forum analogous to MathOverflow.

Welcome to PhysicsOverflow! PhysicsOverflow is an open platform for community peer review and graduate-level Physics discussion.

Please help promote PhysicsOverflow ads elsewhere if you like it.

News

PO is now at the Physics Department of Bielefeld University!

New printer friendly PO pages!

Migration to Bielefeld University was successful!

Please vote for this year's PhysicsOverflow ads!

Please do help out in categorising submissions. Submit a paper to PhysicsOverflow!

... see more

Tools for paper authors

Submit paper
Claim Paper Authorship

Tools for SE users

Search User
Reclaim SE Account
Request Account Merger
Nativise imported posts
Claim post (deleted users)
Import SE post

Users whose questions have been imported from Physics Stack Exchange, Theoretical Physics Stack Exchange, or any other Stack Exchange site are kindly requested to reclaim their account and not to register as a new user.

Public \(\beta\) tools

Report a bug with a feature
Request a new functionality
404 page design
Send feedback

Attributions

(propose a free ad)

Site Statistics

205 submissions , 163 unreviewed
5,082 questions , 2,232 unanswered
5,353 answers , 22,789 comments
1,470 users with positive rep
820 active unimported users
More ...

  What is the fine structure constant at Planck energy?

+ 2 like - 0 dislike
1906 views

The usually quoted value of the fine structure constant is 1/137.0359... This value holds at low energies. As is well known, this value increases somewhat with energy: it is about 1/128 at (M_Z)^2. Now, IF we imagine that there is no GUT, no physics beyond the standard model, no supersymmetry, and that QED is correct all the time (yes, that is a big IF), what would the value be at Planck energy (10^19 GeV)?

asked Dec 30, 2017 in Theoretical Physics by Mayhem [ revision history ]
edited Dec 30, 2017

Yes, increases is correct - i edited the text!

The measurements go only up to 1000 GeV at most :-(

The coupling constant of QED is known to diverge at a finite energy scale: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau_pole

@RyanThorngren: I am afraid Mayhem means SM rather than QED here.

2 Answers

+ 0 like - 0 dislike

In the meantime, since there were no answers here, I have asked a few experts on the topic. By using the extrapolated couplings alpha_1, alpha_2 and alpha_3 from the graphs of the running coupling constants, and assuming no other interactions, no GUT, no susy, etc., you get: 

The fine structure constant at Planck energy is around 1/105.

answered Jan 4, 2018 by Mayhem [ no revision ]

any detailed calculations to back up this estimate, or is it just another magic number?

1/105 or 1/100 is still a small number, which says nothing. Do you, Mayhem, know that $\alpha$ is always multiplied by some dimensionless function of the physical problem variables in question and only this product serves as a "small parameter"?

it is difficult to give an estimation because all the negative if. One can take the Bohr Sommerfield equation and derive a value but there is no more garantee of predictability. For the math, a computation on a lattice model may give interesting results at more common energies

+ 0 like - 0 dislike

There are no predictions for the fine structure constant that I know of. I remmember seeing an image for Grand Unification once where there was SM on one side and MSSM on the other. I've done some work on this topic my self and the value is around 1/100. There's no way to test if it's true however my equation is in full agreement with experimental evidence where available, both for the EM coupling (fine structure constant) and the strong coupling constant.

answered Jan 8, 2018 by NikolaPerk (100 points) [ no revision ]

Your answer

Please use answers only to (at least partly) answer questions. To comment, discuss, or ask for clarification, leave a comment instead.
To mask links under text, please type your text, highlight it, and click the "link" button. You can then enter your link URL.
Please consult the FAQ for as to how to format your post.
This is the answer box; if you want to write a comment instead, please use the 'add comment' button.
Live preview (may slow down editor)   Preview
Your name to display (optional):
Privacy: Your email address will only be used for sending these notifications.
Anti-spam verification:
If you are a human please identify the position of the character covered by the symbol $\varnothing$ in the following word:
p$\hbar$ysi$\varnothing$sOverflow
Then drag the red bullet below over the corresponding character of our banner. When you drop it there, the bullet changes to green (on slow internet connections after a few seconds).
Please complete the anti-spam verification




user contributions licensed under cc by-sa 3.0 with attribution required

Your rights
...