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  How would you figure some of the methods (in order of importance) to take a picture of the supersonic bullet with the wave it produce in 1888?

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It would still be almost impossible for me in 21th century to take this picture:

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(image courtesy of wikipedia)

How would you figure some of the methods (in order of importance) to take a picture of the supersonic bullet with the wave it produce in 1888?

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-30 15:53 (UCT), posted by SE-user Victor
asked May 1, 2012 in Theoretical Physics by Victor (30 points) [ no revision ]
retagged Mar 30, 2014
He used a spark as a light source, triggered by the bullet shorting the two wires that can be seen in the picture. A schematic of Mach's system can be seen in this slide.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-30 15:53 (UCT), posted by SE-user mmc
As far as I know the problems are triggering and a sufficient light-to-emulsion-sensitivity ratio. And if you light is bright and brief enough one solution might cover both parts.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-30 15:53 (UCT), posted by SE-user dmckee
@mmc: That's an answer. Or at least a good part of one.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-30 15:53 (UCT), posted by SE-user dmckee
Victor: what do you mean by "in price order"?

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-30 15:53 (UCT), posted by SE-user David Z

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A description is here:

He employed an innovative approach called the shadowgraph. A typical shadowgraph experiment is illustrated below. In this technique, light is passed through an airflow and reflected onto a screen or film plate. Since shock waves create changes in the temperature and density of the airflow, the light waves are bent, or refracted, as they pass through the shock waves. These refracted light patterns create shadows that can be seen on the screen.

Once one has the "picture" recording it is a matter of triggering the exposure of the camera to the passing of the bullet. Since he had also experimented with spark shock waves I guess the following experimental setup:

The signal from the trigger wires ( the two vertical lines in the photo you show) triggers a spark gap in a completely dark enclosure where the film is exposed and waiting. When the spark comes during the passing of the bullet the differences in the refraction index of the air from the shock wave are recorded.

Actually we used the technique of triggered sparking to record cosmic rays passing through a spark chamber back in the 1960's. The film was continually exposed and was moved forward after the sparking/passing cosmic. The spark lasts nanoseconds only.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-30 15:53 (UCT), posted by SE-user anna v
answered May 1, 2012 by anna v (2,005 points) [ no revision ]
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If the object that is being photographed moves noticeably during the exposure, the image is going to be blurred. As Mach was trying to get a photograph of a supersonic bullet, moving at more than 600 m/s, the exposure needed to be very brief:

$$t_{exposure} < \frac{2\,\mathrm{mm}}{600\,\mathrm{m\cdot s^{-1}}}\approx 3\,\mathrm{\mu s}$$

It's very difficult to get very short exposures using mechanical shutters, so Mach used a spark discharge to get a very short light pulse that was bright enough to expose the film (the film "only cares" about the time-integrated exposure, not about brightness).

The photograph was a shadowgraph, with the bullet casting a shadow over the film, because Mach was interested in seeing photographical evidence of the shockwaves he had predicted.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-30 15:53 (UCT), posted by SE-user mmc
answered May 1, 2012 by mmc (100 points) [ no revision ]
IMO Mach utilized Schlieren photography rather than shadowgraph.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-30 15:53 (UCT), posted by SE-user Leos Ondra
@LeosOndra I searched unsuccessfully for the original article. I have only been able to find indirect evidence such as similarity with other shadowgraph images and very indirect references (see p. 66 here).

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-30 15:53 (UCT), posted by SE-user mmc
@LeosOndra Anna V's answer describes Schlieren photography

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-30 15:53 (UCT), posted by SE-user WetSavannaAnimal aka Rod Vance

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