Quantcast
  • Register
PhysicsOverflow is a next-generation academic platform for physicists and astronomers, including a community peer review system and a postgraduate-level discussion forum analogous to MathOverflow.

Welcome to PhysicsOverflow! PhysicsOverflow is an open platform for community peer review and graduate-level Physics discussion.

Please help promote PhysicsOverflow ads elsewhere if you like it.

News

PO is now at the Physics Department of Bielefeld University!

New printer friendly PO pages!

Migration to Bielefeld University was successful!

Please vote for this year's PhysicsOverflow ads!

Please do help out in categorising submissions. Submit a paper to PhysicsOverflow!

... see more

Tools for paper authors

Submit paper
Claim Paper Authorship

Tools for SE users

Search User
Reclaim SE Account
Request Account Merger
Nativise imported posts
Claim post (deleted users)
Import SE post

Users whose questions have been imported from Physics Stack Exchange, Theoretical Physics Stack Exchange, or any other Stack Exchange site are kindly requested to reclaim their account and not to register as a new user.

Public \(\beta\) tools

Report a bug with a feature
Request a new functionality
404 page design
Send feedback

Attributions

(propose a free ad)

Site Statistics

205 submissions , 163 unreviewed
5,082 questions , 2,232 unanswered
5,353 answers , 22,789 comments
1,470 users with positive rep
820 active unimported users
More ...

  Why is the Taub-NUT instanton singular at $\theta=\pi$?

+ 4 like - 0 dislike
4987 views

Consider the following metric

$$ds^2=V(dx+4m(1-\cos\theta)d\phi)^2+\frac{1}{V}(dr+r^2d\theta^2+r^2\sin^2\theta{}d\phi^2),$$

where $$V=1+\frac{4m}{r}.$$

That is the Taub-NUT instanton. I have been told that it is singular at $\theta=\pi$ but I don't really see anything wrong with it. So, why is it singular at $\theta=\pi$?

EDIT:: I have just found in this paper that the metric is singular "since the $(1-\cos\theta)$ term in the metric means that a small loop about this axis does not shrink to zero at lenght at $\theta=\pi$" but this is still too obscure for me, any clarification would be much appreciated.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-06-27 11:28 (UCT), posted by SE-user silvrfück
asked Jun 25, 2014 in Theoretical Physics by Dmitry hand me the Kalashnikov (735 points) [ no revision ]
Have you tried computing $\det g$ for $\theta = \pi$?

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-06-27 11:28 (UCT), posted by SE-user Robin Ekman
@RobinEkman just did, if I have't messed up the calculations it is $\frac{r^2(-256m^2V^2)}{V^2}$, nothin weird I'd say

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-06-27 11:28 (UCT), posted by SE-user silvrfück
@RobinEkman maybe you are interested in the edit I just made in the question

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-06-27 11:28 (UCT), posted by SE-user silvrfück

1 Answer

+ 4 like - 0 dislike

Rewrite the metric as follows:

$$ds^2 = V (dx + A)^2 + \frac1V (dr^2 + r^2 d\theta^2 + r^2 \sin^2\theta d\phi^2)$$

This exhibits the Taub-NUT metric as the metric on the total space of a circle bundle over $\mathbb{R}^2\setminus\{0\}$.  Let

$$\vartheta_1 = \sqrt{V} (dx + A) ~~~~~~~~ \vartheta_2 = \frac1{\sqrt V} dr$$

$$\vartheta_3 = \frac1{\sqrt V} r d\theta ~~~~~~~~ \vartheta_4 = \frac1{\sqrt V} r \sin\theta d\phi$$

so that we may write the metric as 

$$ ds^2 = \vartheta_1^2 + \vartheta_2^2 + \vartheta_3^2 + \vartheta_4^2$$

and the volume form is

$$d\mathrm{vol} = \vartheta_1 \wedge \vartheta_2 \wedge \vartheta_3 \wedge \vartheta_4 = \frac{r^2\sin\theta}{V} dx \wedge dr \wedge d\theta \wedge d\phi$$

If $\theta = \pi$, then $\sin\theta = 0$ and hence $d\mathrm{vol}=0$, whence it is singular.

answered Jun 28, 2014 by José Figueroa-O'Farrill (2,315 points) [ revision history ]
edited Jun 28, 2014 by José Figueroa-O'Farrill

Good answer, but there seems to be a minor typo in the line where you rewrote the metric (\(\sin^\theta\) should be \(\sin\theta\)). Sorry for nitpicking though!

straight to the key point. Thanks!

Yes, sorry -- I left a '2' out :)  Should be corrected now.

There's something I don't see. Following your argument the volume form does also vanish at $\theta=0$ so this should also be a singilarity. Nonetheless, in the paper I linked it is explicitly stated that $\theta=0$ is not a singularity. Why is this so?

The same argument does not apply similarly to Schwarzschild? Also its volume form is r^2 sinθ, isn´t it? θ=π is not a singular point for the Scwarzschild metric (just the coordinate are ill defined there, in prolate spherical coordinate the volume form is just r^2 both for Schwarschild and for the above metric proposed in the post). So I can not understand the proposed motivation, as also Dmitry said.

Maybe is just the fact that the off diagonal term (1−cosθ) is not continous on the axis of symmetry: is null in the upper plane (θ=0) but is 2 on the bottom part for θ=π, andthere isa jump (discontinuity) on the junction.

Your answer

Please use answers only to (at least partly) answer questions. To comment, discuss, or ask for clarification, leave a comment instead.
To mask links under text, please type your text, highlight it, and click the "link" button. You can then enter your link URL.
Please consult the FAQ for as to how to format your post.
This is the answer box; if you want to write a comment instead, please use the 'add comment' button.
Live preview (may slow down editor)   Preview
Your name to display (optional):
Privacy: Your email address will only be used for sending these notifications.
Anti-spam verification:
If you are a human please identify the position of the character covered by the symbol $\varnothing$ in the following word:
p$\hbar$ysi$\varnothing$sOverflow
Then drag the red bullet below over the corresponding character of our banner. When you drop it there, the bullet changes to green (on slow internet connections after a few seconds).
Please complete the anti-spam verification




user contributions licensed under cc by-sa 3.0 with attribution required

Your rights
...