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  What is an integrable system

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What is an integrable system, and what is the significance of such systems? (Maybe it is easier to explain what a non-integrable system is.) In particular, is there a dichotomy between "integrable" and "chaotic"? (There is an interesting wikipedia article but I don't find it completely satisfying.)

Update (Dec 2010): Thanks for the many excellent answers. I came across another quote from Nigel Hitchin:

"Integrability of a system of differential equations should manifest itself through some generally recognizable features:

  • the existence of many conserved quantities

  • the presence of algebraic geometry

  • the ability to give explicit solutions.

These guidelines whould be interpreted in a very broad sense."

(If there are some aspects mentioned by Hitchin not addressed by the current answers, additions are welcome...)

Closely related questions: What does it mean for a differential equation "to be integrable"?; basic questions on quantum integrable systems

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Gil Kalai
asked Nov 21, 2009 in Mathematics by Gil Kalai (475 points) [ no revision ]
retagged Aug 28, 2018
Very good answers! I'd love to see more angles to this important issue, which is why a little bounty is offered.

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Gil Kalai
Excellent question, I think. But I'm stuck before we get to the "integrable" part. What is a "system"? I'd be glad if someone addressed this in their answer.

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Tom Leinster
I believe that 'system' is in the same sense as 'dynamical system', which probably comes from 'system of differential equations'.

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user José Figueroa-O'Farrill
Thanks, José, but that doesn't really answer the question. People use "dynamical system" in a variety of ways. E.g. the wikipedia article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamical_system_(definition) gives the general definition as a partial action of a monoid on a set. An article by Adler in the Bulletin of the AMS defines it as a compact metric space with a continuous endomorphism. But I don't think that either of those definitions is what the answers below are referring to. Perhaps I should ask this as a separate question

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Tom Leinster
The book by Hitchin, Segal, Ward and Woodhouse begins with this nice quote: "Integrable systems, what are they? It's not easy to answer precisely. The question can occupy a whole book (Zakharov 1991), or be dismissed as Louis Armstrong is reputed to have done once when asked what jazz was---'If you gotta ask, you'll never know!'"

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user HJRW
Could anyone with enough rep please add the "integrable-systems" tag to this question?

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user mathphysicist
There was a Gibbs lecture "Integrable Systems: A modern View": jointmathematicsmeetings.org/meetings/national/jmm/deift

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Thomas Riepe

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I'll take off from the questioner's suggesting that maybe it's better to say what is a NON-integrable system is.

The Newtonian planar three body problem, for most masses, has been proven to be non-integrable.

Before Poincare, there seemed to be a kind of general hope in the air that every autonomous Hamiltonian system was integrable. One of Poincare's big claims to fame, proved within his Les Methodes Nouvelles de Mecanique Celeste, was that the planar three-body problem is not completely integrable. It is the dynamical systems equivalent to Galois' work on quintics. Specifically, Poincare proved that besides the energy, angular momentum and linear momentum there are no other ANALYTIC functions on phase space which Poisson commute with the energy. (To be more careful: any 'other' such function is a function of energy, angular momentum, and linear momentum. And his proof, or its extensions, only holds in the parameter region where one of the mass dominates the other two. It is still possible that for very special masses and angular momenta/ energies the system is integrable. No one believes this.) As best I can tell, existence of additional smooth integrals (with fractal-like level sets) is still open, at least in most cases.

Poincare's impossibitly proof is based on his discovery of what is nowadays called a "homoclinic tangle" embedded within the restricted three body problem, viewed in a rotating frame. In this tangle, the unstable and stable manifold of some point (an orbit in the non-rotating inertial frame) cross each other infinitely often, these crossing points having the point in its closure.
Roughly speaking, an additional integral would have to be constant along this complicated set. Now use the fact that if the zeros of an analytic function have an accumulation point then that function is zero to conclude that the function is zero.

Before Poincare (and I suppose since) mathematicians and in particular astronomers spent much energy searching for sequences of changes of variables which made the system "more and more integrable". Poincare realized the series defining their transformations were divergent -- hence his interest in divergent series. This divergence problem is the "small denominators problem" and getting around it by putting number theoretic conditions on frequencies appearing is at the heart of the KAM theorem.

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Richard Montgomery
answered Dec 31, 2009 by Richard Montgomery (210 points) [ no revision ]
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This is, of course, a very good question. I should preface with the disclaimer that despite having worked on some aspects of integrability, I do not consider myself an expert. However I have thought about this question on and (mostly) off.

I will restrict myself to integrability in classical (i.e., hamiltonian) mechanics, since quantum integrability has to my mind a very different flavour.

The standard definition, which you can find in the wikipedia article you linked to, is that of Liouville. Given a Poisson manifold $P$ parametrising the states of a mechanical system, a hamiltonian function $H \in C^\infty(P)$ defines a vector field $\lbrace H,-\rbrace$, whose flows are the classical trajectories of the system. A function $f \in C^\infty(P)$ which Poisson-commutes with $H$ is constant along the classical trajectories and hence is called a conserved quantity. The Jacobi identity for the Poisson bracket says that if $f,g \in C^\infty(P)$ are conserved quantities so is their Poisson bracket $\lbrace f,g\rbrace$. Two conserved quantities are said to be in involution if they Poisson-commute. The system is said to be classically integrable if it admits "as many as possible" independent conserved quantities $f_1,f_2,\dots$ in involution. Independence means that the set of points of $P$ where their derivatives $df_1,df_2,\dots$ are linearly independent is dense.

I'm being purposefully vague above. If $P$ is a finite-dimensional and symplectic, hence of even dimension $2n$, then "as many as possible" means $n$. (One can include $H$ among the conserved quantities.) However there are interesting infinite-dimensional examples (e.g., KdV hierarchy and its cousins) where $P$ is only Poisson and "as many as possible" means in practice an infinite number of conserved quantities. Also it is not strictly necessary for the conserved quantities to be in involution, but one can allow the Lie subalgebra of $C^\infty(P)$ they span to be solvable but nonabelian.

Now the reason that integrability seems to be such a slippery notion is that one can argue that "locally" any reasonable hamiltonian system is integrable in this sense. The hallmark of integrability, according to the practitioners anyway, seems to be coordinate-dependent. I mean this in the sense that $P$ is not usually given abstractly as a manifold, but comes with a given coordinate chart. Integrability then requires the conserved quantities to be written as local expressions (e.g., differential polynomials,...) of the given coordinates.

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user José Figueroa-O'Farrill
answered Nov 21, 2009 by José Figueroa-O'Farrill (2,315 points) [ no revision ]
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The simple answer is that a $2n$-dimensional Hamiltonian system of ODE is integrable if it has $n$ (functionally) independent constants of the motion that are "in involution". (Functionally independent means none of them can be written as a function of the others. And "in involution" means that their Poisson Brackets all vanish -- a somewhat technical condition I won't define carefully (* but see below), but instead refer you to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_bracket). The simplest and the motivating example is the $n$-dimensional Harmonic Oscillator. What makes integrable systems remarkable and interesting is that one can find so-called "action angle variables" for them, in terms of which the time-evolution of any orbit becomes transparent.

For a more detailed and modern discussion you may find an expository article I wrote in the Bulletin of The AMS useful. It is called "On the Symmetries of Solitons", and you can download it as pdf here:


It is primarily about the infinite dimensional theory of integrable systems, like SGE (the Sine-Gordon Equation), KdV (Korteweg deVries) , and NLS (non-linear Schrodinger equation), but it starts out with an exposition of the classic finite dimensional theory.

  • Here is a little bit about what the Poisson bracket of two functions is that explains its meaning and why two functions with vanishing Poisson bracket are said to "Poisson commute". Recall that in Hamiltonian mechanics there is a natural non degenerate two-form $\omega = \sum_i dp_i \wedge dq_i $. This defines (by contraction with $\omega$) a bijective correspondence between vector fields and differential 1-forms. OK then -- given two functions $f$ and $g$, let $F$ and $G$ be the vector fields corresponding to the 1-forms $df$ and $dg$. Then the Poisson bracket of $f$ and $g$ is the function $h$ such that $dh$ corresponds to the vector field $[F,G]$, the usual commutator bracket of the vector fields $F$ and $G$. Thus two functions Poisson commute iff the vector fields corresponding to their differentials commute, i.e., iff the flows defined by these vector fields commute. So if a Hamiltonian vector field (on a compact $2n$-dimensional symplectic manifold $M$) is integrable, then it belongs to an $n$-dimensional family of commuting vector fields that generate a torus action on $M$. And this is where the action-angle variables come from: the level surfaces of the action variables are the torus orbits and the angle variables are the angles coordinates for the $n$ circles whose product gives a torus orbit.
This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Dick Palais
answered Jul 5, 2010 by Dick Palais (120 points) [ no revision ]
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I don't think that one could say that there is a dichotomy between integrable and chaotic systems. There is certainly a huge chunk in the middle. By a chaotic system we often mean a system where trajectories of points deviate exponentially with time, a canonical example is the Arnold (or Anosov) cat's map. In this case a generic trajectory is of course everywhere dense in the phase space. This is related to ergodicity (in the case when there is a measure preserved by the system). But of course not every ergodic system is chaotic. There are different degrees of chaos, mixing, strong mixing, etc.

On the contrary for an integrable system the motion of every trajectory is quasi-periodic, it stays forever on a half-dimensional torus, such systems are rare. A little perturbation of such a system is not integrable anymore. KAM theory describes the residue of integrability of the perturbation, while Arnol'd diffusion is about trajectories that don't move quasiperiodically anymore.

There is one amazing example due to Moser, that shows how the cat's map can "happen" on a degenerate level of an integrable system: page 6 in


This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Dmitri
answered Nov 21, 2009 by Dmitri (90 points) [ no revision ]
I agree with this answer. In fact there is a memoir of the AMS by Markus and Meyer which shows that a generic Hamiltonian system is neither integrable nor ergodic, see books.google.fr/…

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Thomas Sauvaget
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The above answers deal mostly with finite-dimensional systems. As for the (systems of) PDEs, you typically need the Lax pair or a zero curvature representation (see e.g. the Takhtajan--Faddeev book mentioned in the wikipedia entry you linked to for the definition of the latter) or something else like that. To the best of my knowledge, the complete understanding of what is an integrable system for the case of three (3D) or more independent variables is still missing. In particular, for the case of three independent variables (a.k.a. 3D or (2+1)D) the overwhelming majority of examples are generalizations of the systems with two independent variables. These generalizations are constructed using the so-called central extension procedure (e.g. the KP equation is related to KdV in this way). Many integrable partial differential systems in three independent variables and apparently the overwhelming majority thereof in four or more independent variables are dispersionless, i.e., can be written as first-order homogeneous quasilinear systems, see e.g. this article and references therein for details.

As for the reading suggestions, in addition to the Takhtajan--Faddeev book cited above, you can look e.g. into a fairly recent book Introduction to classical integrable systems by Babelon, Bernard and Talon, and into the book Multi-Hamiltonian theory of dynamical systems by Maciej Blaszak which covers the central extension stuff in a pretty straightforward fashion. Both books have extensive bibliographies with further references to look into.

Now, as for classification and identification of (new) integrable systems of PDEs, at least in two independent variables, it turns out that the (infinitesimal higher) symmetries play an important role here. A recent collective monograph Integrability, edited by A.V. Mikhailov and published by Springer in 2009, could be a good starting point in this direction. See also another recent book Algebraic theory of differential equations edited by MacCallum and Mikhailov and published by Cambridge University Press. For a general introduction to the subject of symmetries of (systems of) PDEs, I can recommend the book Applications of Lie groups to differential equations by Peter Olver.

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user mathphysicist
answered Dec 27, 2009 by mathphysicist (120 points) [ no revision ]
Your "3D" is better known as 1+2 (one time variable, two space variables). This is an important distinction both in the Lax pair formalism (time variable is preferred) and in zero curvature representation approach (applies primarily to 1+1).

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Victor Protsak
Regarding extension to PDEs, note Dedecker's paper "Intégrales complètes de l'équation aux dérivées partielles de Hamilton-Jacobi d'une intégrale multiple", C.R. Acad. Sc. Paris, 285 (1977) pp. 123-6. Together with two preceding notes in the same journal, this generalises the concept of "complete integrability" of a mechanical system.

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Phil Harmsworth
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This is soft -- but I think of an integrable system as one whose dynamics are dominated by algebra. For finite dimensional integrable systems, the symmetries (related to conserved quantities by Noether's theorem) force the trajectories to live on half-dimensional tori. For infinite dimensional integrable systems, where the flow on the scattering data is isospectral the symmetries force solutions to be n-soliton solutions plus dispersive modes.

There is a blog post of Terry Tao's (apologies for not having the link) which talks about how algebra is the right tool to understand structure while analysis is the right tool to understand randomness. The claim is that one mark of an good problem is the presence of an interesting relationship between structure and randomness and hence the requirement that both algebra and analysis be used -- to some degree -- in order to get a good answer to the problem. The soliton resolution conjecture is by this standard a good problem because the asymptotic n-soliton solutions are fundamentally algebraic while the dispersive modes are fundamentally analytic objects.

I agree with Dmitri that there isn't a dichotomy. The symmetries can have a large or small role in the dynamics as can the ergodicity.

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Aaron Hoffman
answered Dec 4, 2009 by Aaron Hoffman (95 points) [ no revision ]
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I have found an article "Quantum signatures of an integrable system with a chaotic scattering map" here:


So apparently some integrable systems can have chaotic scattering maps.

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Kristal Cantwell
answered Nov 21, 2009 by Kristal Cantwell (60 points) [ no revision ]
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I'll give a bit of a physics definition. (Reference is "A Brief Introduction to Classical, Statistical and Quantum Mechanics" by B\"uhler.)

"A mechanical system is called integrable if we can reduce its solution to a sequence of quadratures."

So, literally, an integrable system (in this view) is one that can be solved by a sequence of integrals (which may not be explicitly solvable in elementary functions, of course). To connect to other answers, this should only work out when there are enough symmetries for us to write down and integrate.

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Charles Siegel
answered Dec 4, 2009 by Charles Siegel (60 points) [ no revision ]
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Since, it hasn't been mentioned yet a short addition to José Figueroa-O'Farrill's answer. I will only talk about the finite dimensional case. So let's assume that $dim(P) = 2n$. Then the Hamiltonian flow is integrable if there exist these $n$ functions $f_1, \dots, f_n$ which are in involution with respect to the Poisson structure.

Now, the cool thing is that there exist action angle coordinates. These means we can conjugate our possibly complicated dynamics to the simple dynamics $$ \partial_t I_j = 0,\quad \partial_t \theta_j = I_j,\quad j=1,\dots,n $$ this is something, we can all solve since it is just linear. Note: We will have $I_j = f_j(orbit)$, which is time independent.

As a possible application, KAM theory is usually formulated as an application to systems in action angle coordinates. This in turn implies that integrable systems are stable (in a subtle measure theoretic sense). But I think this is what is meant with "integrable $\neq$ chaos". We have a great form of perturbation theory for integrable systems.

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Helge
answered Jul 5, 2010 by Helge (60 points) [ no revision ]
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After reading several books and articles about integrable systems, and after several years of work in the field, I consider particularly meaningful the following quotation from Frederic Helein's book 'Constant mean curvature surfaces, harmonic maps and integrable systems', Lectures in Mathematics, ETH Zurich, Birkhauser Basel (2001):

"...working on completely integrable systems is based on a contemplation of some very exceptional equations which hide a Platonic structure: although these equations do not look trivial a priori, we shall discover that they are elementary, once we understand how they are encoded in the language of symplectic geometry, Lie groups and algebraic geometry. It will turn out that this contemplation is fruitful and lead to many results"

This post imported from StackExchange MathOverflow at 2018-08-28 16:20 (UTC), posted by SE-user Giovanni Rastelli
answered Aug 6, 2010 by Giovanni Rastelli (60 points) [ no revision ]

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