Quantcast
  • Register
PhysicsOverflow is a next-generation academic platform for physicists and astronomers, including a community peer review system and a postgraduate-level discussion forum analogous to MathOverflow.

Welcome to PhysicsOverflow! PhysicsOverflow is an open platform for community peer review and graduate-level Physics discussion.

Please help promote PhysicsOverflow ads elsewhere if you like it.

News

PO is now at the Physics Department of Bielefeld University!

New printer friendly PO pages!

Migration to Bielefeld University was successful!

Please vote for this year's PhysicsOverflow ads!

Please do help out in categorising submissions. Submit a paper to PhysicsOverflow!

... see more

Tools for paper authors

Submit paper
Claim Paper Authorship

Tools for SE users

Search User
Reclaim SE Account
Request Account Merger
Nativise imported posts
Claim post (deleted users)
Import SE post

Users whose questions have been imported from Physics Stack Exchange, Theoretical Physics Stack Exchange, or any other Stack Exchange site are kindly requested to reclaim their account and not to register as a new user.

Public \(\beta\) tools

Report a bug with a feature
Request a new functionality
404 page design
Send feedback

Attributions

(propose a free ad)

Site Statistics

205 submissions , 163 unreviewed
5,082 questions , 2,232 unanswered
5,353 answers , 22,789 comments
1,470 users with positive rep
820 active unimported users
More ...

  Significance of massive states in string theory

+ 5 like - 0 dislike
2282 views

A free superstring has an infinite tower of states with increasing mass. The massless states correspond to the fields of the corresponding SUGRA. In "Quantum Fields and Strings: A Course for Mathematicians", vol. II p. 899 we find that the massive states do not contribute anything new to the possible string backgrounds. Terms in the string action corresponding to coupling to a massive background field are nonrenormalizable and therefore disappear when we RG-flow to the IR fixed point, which is the CFT we actually use in quantum string theory. Actually it is explained for the bosonic string but I don't think the difference is essential

What is the physical meaning of this result?

Does it mean massive string states are solitons of the massless fields? If so, do these solitons exist in classical SUGRA?

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
asked Jan 21, 2012 in Theoretical Physics by Squark (1,725 points) [ no revision ]

2 Answers

+ 4 like - 0 dislike

Massive string modes have masses of order the string mass $M_s$, independent of the string coupling $g_{str}$, whereas solitons have masses of order $1/g_{str}$ or $1/g_{str}^2$, depending on whether they are open or closed string solitons. So that putative matching does not work (the exponential degeneracy of massive string states would be another obstacle).

I believe the statement you are referring to does not have the wide ranging implications you draw from it, it has to do specifically with mechanics of computing S-matrix elements via string perturbation theory. In such computations in the background of massless modes, the contribution of the massive strings is already accounted by the usual procedure of summing over Riemann surfaces. This is explained nicely by this classic paper by Dine and Seiberg, Microscopic Knowledge From Macroscopic Physics In String Theory.

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
answered Jan 26, 2012 by Moshe (2,405 points) [ no revision ]
Thx, do you know whether this article can be obtained freely online?

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
There is a link to a scanned document from KEK in the page I linked to.

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
Great, thanks!!

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
I looked at the article but I am still confused, probably due to my own stupidity. I find it hard to reconcile the following 3 statements (maybe one of them is wrong):

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
1. The moduli space of (appropriate) CFTs is the space of solutions of the "classical string equations of motion"

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
2. String theory "regarded as a field theory" has an infinite number of fields

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
3. The choice of a CFT has the same number of degrees of freedom as the choice of solution for the equations of motion of the massless fields only, of which there is a finite number

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
They are all correct. 3 is a subset of 1: in case the classical solution can be described as a sigma model, in other words when there is a large spacetime, then 3 is the way to describe the (sub)space of CFTs. 2 is not a statement about the vacuum, it says that the CFT has infinite number of primary operators, most of which are irrelevant. In parametrizing the space of CFTs, the irrelevant operators play no role, but there are other questions in classical and quantum string theory which are sensitive to them.

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
Think about a similar statement in GR. You can specify completely a certain family of solutions (black holes) by their charge, mass and angular momentum. It doesn't mean that all the information in GR boils down to those 3 numbers (even when discussing black hole physics only).

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
Let me try to clarify my point by an example which will probably show where am I getting it wrong. Consider, say, type IIA 10D SUGRA. The classical equations of motion admit a solution in the form of a gravity wave propagating through asymptotically Minkowski 10D spacetime. We can consider a type IIA string theory having this spacetime as a target space to 1st order in string length. Nonperturbatively on the worldsheet we get some nontrivial SCFT, i.e. there is a SCFT which looks like a string on this background to 1st order in string length

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/2391/discussion-between-squark-and-moshe)

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
You can phrase this on the worldsheet: you have a sigma model whose beta function vanishes to one-loop, but not exactly. This may or may not correspond to an actual classical solution to all orders in $\alpha'$. By systematically correcting the sigma model in perturbation theory (which corresponds to adding higher derivative terms to the spacetime action) you might get an exact SCFT. In such cases there is one to one correspondence between leading order and exact solutions. This is a non-trivial statement and in many cases depends on spacetime supersymmetry.

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
My problem is that it seems there are much less exact SCFTs than solutions of the classical equations of motion in the field theoretic POV, because the massive field don't contribute new SCFTs. However the SCFTs are supposed to be the true classical phase space of string theory. So it seems as though the massive fields don't add new degrees of freedom to string theory. I realize something must be flawed in this logic since perturbative excitations are string states and there are massive string states.

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
I think the distinction you are making is between linearized perturbations and exact solutions. Even in ordinary nonlinear field theory, like GR, the phase space of the theory is spanned, to leading order, by the linear perturbation (say plane wave solutions of the linearized eom), but the exact phase space may be completely different (e.g. Smaller). In ST the linear perturbations are massive string modes, and exact CFTs are solutions to the full eom.

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
OK but the space of linearized perturbations is the tangent space of the phase space so it must have the same dimension (of course dimension is infinite either way but heuristically the number of degrees of freedoms must be preserved). Of course this has to take gauge symmetry into account.

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
+ 0 like - 0 dislike

The interactions of a massive particle fall off exponentially with distance (massless particles have long-range interactions), the exponent determined by the mass. Mathematically, this dependence is governed by the quadratic term of the field in the action.

Now let's lump all fields together into a multi-index field. Then the vacuum state(s) corresponds to the minimum energy configuration(s), and the nearby shape of the landscape around that minimum (those minima) is determined by the massive fields. Adding more of these fields won't change the space of minima or the long-range behavior of interactions.

Or is that too nontechnical and hand-wavy?

This post has been migrated from (A51.SE)
answered Jan 26, 2012 by Eric Zaslow (385 points) [ no revision ]

Your answer

Please use answers only to (at least partly) answer questions. To comment, discuss, or ask for clarification, leave a comment instead.
To mask links under text, please type your text, highlight it, and click the "link" button. You can then enter your link URL.
Please consult the FAQ for as to how to format your post.
This is the answer box; if you want to write a comment instead, please use the 'add comment' button.
Live preview (may slow down editor)   Preview
Your name to display (optional):
Privacy: Your email address will only be used for sending these notifications.
Anti-spam verification:
If you are a human please identify the position of the character covered by the symbol $\varnothing$ in the following word:
p$\hbar$y$\varnothing$icsOverflow
Then drag the red bullet below over the corresponding character of our banner. When you drop it there, the bullet changes to green (on slow internet connections after a few seconds).
Please complete the anti-spam verification




user contributions licensed under cc by-sa 3.0 with attribution required

Your rights
...